Seemingly Intelligent
People Fight God
Jeff & Traci Adkins
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To: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Subject: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 5:36 AM
It amazes me how seemingly intelligent people fight God. The beauty of God is that He does not force any one to believe. A person must seek God, not the other way around. God desires us to serve Him. It is voluntary. God leaves the choice up to us. God created free will. God is not a spirit of slavery. It is not commanded that you must serve. There are two choices, believe or do not believe.
It is obvious as morals are removed from society, society suffers. Open your eyes. Quit blaming a God you say you do not believe exists. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. Morals and decency must take priority. It is time that we as a race quit whining and fighting each others beliefs and take notice of the real problems we are facing.
Jeff & Traci Adkins
From: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To:
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 1:14 PM
It amazes me how seemingly intelligent people fight God. The beauty of God is that He does not force any one to believe.
The Tooth Fairy doesn't force anybody to believe, either. She can't
-- she doesn't exist!
A person must seek God, not the other way around.
The early Protestants and modern Calvinists would disagree: they tell us that mankind is so depraved through Original Sin that we cannot recognize the Calvinistic god on our own, and therefore must be fortunate enough to have been hand-chosen by that god from the foundation of the earth and subsequently enlightened by his saving grace.
You can't both be right, so who's right? and how are we supposed to know? how do we verify that you or the others (or neither) are right?
The Calvinists seem to have a much stronger case, as far as the Bible
goes. Those who disagree with the Calvinists must resort to humanistic
sentiments in order to make their case, they cannot make it solely from
the Bible because it isn't there. So we're back to human reason, once again!
It is not commanded that you must serve.
Sure it is! We must believe in Christ, or we roast in hell! We must believe in Mohammed's "Allah" or we get decapitated, and after that, our corpse gets abused by having our fingers cut off -- and then we burn in hell!
Regular or extra crispy?
Morals and decency must take priority. It is time that we as a race quit whining and fighting each others beliefs and take notice of the real problems we are facing.
You're fighting the wrong guy! I agree that morals are important, and that is why I am developing and advocating the philosophy of Positive Atheism, which is a proactive ethic whose target audience is the people who are unconvinced by such railing as we see above.
I suggest you open your eyes and read a group's mission statement before laying into people over things abouy which you know nothing -- but could find out about very easily just by spending two or three minutes reading a simple mission statement! Had you read our mission statement before you wrote to us, you wouldn't have made this mistake.
Cliff Walker
"Positive Atheism" Magazine
From:
To: Positve Atheism <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:40 PM
get over yourself.
Jeff & Traci Adkins
From: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To:
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 1:58 PM
I didn't write to you, you wrote to me!
Perhaps leaving people alone and letting them live their own lives (as you suggested that your god does) is a good policy after all!
Cliff Walker
"Positive Atheism" Magazine
From:
To: Positive Atheism <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 5:00 PM
Quit bugging me. I really don't care, I just wanted to see if you all were as immature as I had heard. Thanks for clearing it up.
From: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To:
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 6:22 PM
Think what you want. Remember, you wrote to us. We didn't bother you.
Cliff Walker
"Positive Atheism" Magazine
From:
To: Positive Atheism <editor@positiveatheism.org>
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:16 PM
You are so entertaining. It is a shame that we can not talk face to face. I will be out of town for a couple of weeks, as my father has recently passed away. My hope is that you are wrong.
From: "Positive Atheism" <editor@positiveatheism.org>
To:
Subject: Re: Positive_Atheism_Letters_Section
Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 2:24 AM
I am sorry for the demise of your father. My heart goes out to you.
Cliff Walker
"Positive Atheism" Magazine
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